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	<title>Comments on: Roadmap Analysis For Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS Revisited</title>
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	<description>a swift kick in the *nix</description>
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		<title>By: erichj</title>
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		<dc:creator>erichj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Automatix is dead. http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2424</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Automatix is dead. <a href="http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2424" rel="nofollow">http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2424</a></p>
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		<title>By: kremalicious</title>
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		<dc:creator>kremalicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool list. tanks for this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool list. tanks for this!</p>
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		<title>By: Jawshie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jawshie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Mr. Fsckin! This is my first time here so be nice! :P Love the articles.

I just wanted to pop in and say that I understand your disappointment in a lot of the features being withheld in this release but we must also understand that it is a LTS release. This means that they are trying to make it as stable as possible from the get-go. Implementing a lot of new features is not their main priority; it&#039;s rather their interest to fix problems with the old release and add stable features that will least likely be a problem. In the Ibex release, we can most likely expect a flurry of new and wonderful features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Mr. Fsckin! This is my first time here so be nice! <img src='http://www.fsckin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  Love the articles.</p>
<p>I just wanted to pop in and say that I understand your disappointment in a lot of the features being withheld in this release but we must also understand that it is a LTS release. This means that they are trying to make it as stable as possible from the get-go. Implementing a lot of new features is not their main priority; it&#8217;s rather their interest to fix problems with the old release and add stable features that will least likely be a problem. In the Ibex release, we can most likely expect a flurry of new and wonderful features.</p>
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		<title>By: zcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>zcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do some of these bugs even get out the door though?

Things like the zoom-map for choosing your timezone; Did the programmer who designed it in the first place, or whoever decided to add it to ubuntu, or anyone at all in the process not think to test it even once, more than just &#039;it compiles and runs&#039; but &#039;can I click on a city using it&#039;? How did this even get as far as an ISO? And even then did nobody at all think to do a trial install of the ISO on a test machine before they uploaded it to the world, and think &quot;OMFG that&#039;s awful&quot; and fix it? 

Or the broken firefox shortcut in the default install. Really obvious as soon as ubuntu booted. Took me about ten seconds to fix it. Why was something that was so obviously broken and so trivially fixed ever released broken? And this stayed broken through at least two alpha versions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do some of these bugs even get out the door though?</p>
<p>Things like the zoom-map for choosing your timezone; Did the programmer who designed it in the first place, or whoever decided to add it to ubuntu, or anyone at all in the process not think to test it even once, more than just &#8216;it compiles and runs&#8217; but &#8216;can I click on a city using it&#8217;? How did this even get as far as an ISO? And even then did nobody at all think to do a trial install of the ISO on a test machine before they uploaded it to the world, and think &#8220;OMFG that&#8217;s awful&#8221; and fix it? </p>
<p>Or the broken firefox shortcut in the default install. Really obvious as soon as ubuntu booted. Took me about ten seconds to fix it. Why was something that was so obviously broken and so trivially fixed ever released broken? And this stayed broken through at least two alpha versions!</p>
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		<title>By: BobCFC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobCFC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Nice abstract penguin desktop background


lol it&#039;s meant to be a Heron  :P

I saw it on a blog a month or two back and it found it&#039;s way in as the default wallpaper.  There&#039;s also a blue version doing the rounds by dissident rebel blue hackers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Nice abstract penguin desktop background</p>
<p>lol it&#8217;s meant to be a Heron  <img src='http://www.fsckin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I saw it on a blog a month or two back and it found it&#8217;s way in as the default wallpaper.  There&#8217;s also a blue version doing the rounds by dissident rebel blue hackers.</p>
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		<title>By: Refilwe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refilwe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with something like brainstorm is that somethings are harder than others to include.

What&#039;s worse is that it has been up for less than 3 weeks and some people are _already_ complaining that Ubuntu hasn&#039;t been developing the ideas fast enough!  

I think Ubuntu Community/Canonical need to make important dates like *Feature Freeze* available right at the top of Brainstorm and other relevant outlets because for example Hardy has been in Feature Freeze since before Brainstorm was opened. So any new features not being worked on already, won&#039;t happen until Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is released (at minimum).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with something like brainstorm is that somethings are harder than others to include.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse is that it has been up for less than 3 weeks and some people are _already_ complaining that Ubuntu hasn&#8217;t been developing the ideas fast enough!  </p>
<p>I think Ubuntu Community/Canonical need to make important dates like *Feature Freeze* available right at the top of Brainstorm and other relevant outlets because for example Hardy has been in Feature Freeze since before Brainstorm was opened. So any new features not being worked on already, won&#8217;t happen until Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is released (at minimum).</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vadim P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fox: No, you didn&#039;t quite get it. I don&#039;t want someone doing that every single time they need to add it. Like you can already click on an &quot;apt:package&quot; link and download it right away, I&#039;d like it to be something similar for adding. So a user can just click once to add the repository (maybe again to confirm), third time to get the program, and 4th to confirm.

Not click on various menus, read labels, copy/paste things, and so on like it is right now.

Same for #14. I think he meant the System -&gt; About Ubuntu one. It&#039;s, uh, much more accessible than System -&gt; Administration -&gt; System Monitor -&gt; System.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fox: No, you didn&#8217;t quite get it. I don&#8217;t want someone doing that every single time they need to add it. Like you can already click on an &#8220;apt:package&#8221; link and download it right away, I&#8217;d like it to be something similar for adding. So a user can just click once to add the repository (maybe again to confirm), third time to get the program, and 4th to confirm.</p>
<p>Not click on various menus, read labels, copy/paste things, and so on like it is right now.</p>
<p>Same for #14. I think he meant the System -&gt; About Ubuntu one. It&#8217;s, uh, much more accessible than System -&gt; Administration -&gt; System Monitor -&gt; System.</p>
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		<title>By: fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 is implemented in current alpha, go to: System -&gt; Administration -&gt; Software Sources -&gt; Third-Party Software and press Add..

#5 working here with nvidia restricted driver

#10,13 System -&gt; Administration -&gt; Shared Folders, share folders over cifs and nfs

#14 this is in System -&gt; Administration -&gt; System Monitor -&gt; System

#26 working for me, what would you like to see changed on the current reporting system?

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 is implemented in current alpha, go to: System -&gt; Administration -&gt; Software Sources -&gt; Third-Party Software and press Add..</p>
<p>#5 working here with nvidia restricted driver</p>
<p>#10,13 System -&gt; Administration -&gt; Shared Folders, share folders over cifs and nfs</p>
<p>#14 this is in System -&gt; Administration -&gt; System Monitor -&gt; System</p>
<p>#26 working for me, what would you like to see changed on the current reporting system?</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne:  Agreed on resources comment.

Vadim:  I turned off tracker immediately, if I need to find something I&#039;ll recursively grep for it.  

Iván:  Yep, it&#039;s one thing to add in a digg-style website to let users vote up or down on something, but something else entirely to actually act on that information.  Gutsy or Fiesty - I can&#039;t really tell that big of a difference bug or feature-wise.

Haxit:  Thanks bud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne:  Agreed on resources comment.</p>
<p>Vadim:  I turned off tracker immediately, if I need to find something I&#8217;ll recursively grep for it.  </p>
<p>Iván:  Yep, it&#8217;s one thing to add in a digg-style website to let users vote up or down on something, but something else entirely to actually act on that information.  Gutsy or Fiesty &#8211; I can&#8217;t really tell that big of a difference bug or feature-wise.</p>
<p>Haxit:  Thanks bud!</p>
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		<title>By: HaXiT</title>
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		<dc:creator>HaXiT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing post bro :)
HaXIT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing post bro <img src='http://www.fsckin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
HaXIT</p>
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