Comments on: Turn One Linux Computer Into 10 Workstations Easily With Desktop Multiplier http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/ a swift kick in the *nix Thu, 07 Apr 2011 05:45:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Yall_Noobs http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-5630 Yall_Noobs Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:43:35 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-5630 Seriously? More ignorance...this has been around FOREVER on windows in multiple flavors, only one of which is betwin by thinsoft ... come on... just like all the ipod users, everyday noobs don't know jack, and neither do the so called techies , irrelevant of who or what you do for a living, this is unbaweebable Seriously? More ignorance…this has been around FOREVER on windows in multiple flavors, only one of which is betwin by thinsoft … come on… just like all the ipod users, everyday noobs don’t know jack, and neither do the so called techies , irrelevant of who or what you do for a living, this is unbaweebable

]]> By: Yaro http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-5489 Yaro Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:49:55 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-5489 +1 anonymouse Windows even in a server environment is by design a single user system. Not just because of licensing. It cannot do user logins even remotely close to the same ways genuine multi-user systems like POSIX systems have. And as you said, whenever Microsoft provides addons that might bring Windows closer to something remotely POSIX, it costs an arm and a leg ("POSIX" tools for Windows, is an absolutely crappy implementation (Virtual Desktop Manager), or is both those things (NT altogether. NT was meant to be a UNIX killer. Unfortunately for NT UNIX is not dead because UNIX implementations are actually standards compliant. (POSIX.)) +1 anonymouse

Windows even in a server environment is by design a single user system. Not just because of licensing. It cannot do user logins even remotely close to the same ways genuine multi-user systems like POSIX systems have.

And as you said, whenever Microsoft provides addons that might bring Windows closer to something remotely POSIX, it costs an arm and a leg (“POSIX” tools for Windows, is an absolutely crappy implementation (Virtual Desktop Manager), or is both those things (NT altogether. NT was meant to be a UNIX killer. Unfortunately for NT UNIX is not dead because UNIX implementations are actually standards compliant. (POSIX.))

]]> By: anonymouse http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-3956 anonymouse Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:42:02 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-3956 PredatoryFern, I am sorry to disappoint, but due to windows' current design it is impossible for a couple reasons. 1) Desktop versions of Windows (as in, not server versions) only have a single-user license, so Microsoft has crippled the OS to disallow multiple users to be logged-on to the same computer simultaneously. This may be slightly different for Vista, but I know this is true for XP. 2) The closest thing in the server environment is a terminal services mechanism. However this is distinctly different from what we are discussing here, as it still requires each user to have their own hardware, and in turn licenses for that computer. By current design and licensing it is impossible for a single Windows computer to serve multiple KVM (Keyboard Video Mouse) mechanisms. As for Citrix, Citrix is something completely different. Citrix does offer you the ability to stream desktops, as well as single applications, however this is closer to Terminal Services (however it is by far more powerful). Citrix still requires each user to have physical towers (CPU/Mobo/RAM, etc) to actually access the Citrix mechanism. In it's current design Citrix streams applications, it does not allow multiple users on one physical machine through use of a multiple KVM mechanism. Sorry WinBlokes, you're SOL. (Besides, I imagine MicroShaft would charge you an arm and a leg and it would still run medeocrely compared to the true Multi-User environments of Unix/BSD/Linux). PredatoryFern,

I am sorry to disappoint, but due to windows’ current design it is impossible for a couple reasons.

1) Desktop versions of Windows (as in, not server versions) only have a single-user license, so Microsoft has crippled the OS to disallow multiple users to be logged-on to the same computer simultaneously. This may be slightly different for Vista, but I know this is true for XP.

2) The closest thing in the server environment is a terminal services mechanism. However this is distinctly different from what we are discussing here, as it still requires each user to have their own hardware, and in turn licenses for that computer.

By current design and licensing it is impossible for a single Windows computer to serve multiple KVM (Keyboard Video Mouse) mechanisms.

As for Citrix, Citrix is something completely different. Citrix does offer you the ability to stream desktops, as well as single applications, however this is closer to Terminal Services (however it is by far more powerful). Citrix still requires each user to have physical towers (CPU/Mobo/RAM, etc) to actually access the Citrix mechanism. In it’s current design Citrix streams applications, it does not allow multiple users on one physical machine through use of a multiple KVM mechanism.

Sorry WinBlokes, you’re SOL. (Besides, I imagine MicroShaft would charge you an arm and a leg and it would still run medeocrely compared to the true Multi-User environments of Unix/BSD/Linux).

]]> By: bruce http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-1350 bruce Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:37:51 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-1350 The product for windows is called citrix. Microsoft wants full license fees for all of its software that is 'shared, bless their little hearts The product for windows is called citrix. Microsoft wants full license fees for all of its software that is ‘shared, bless their little hearts

]]> By: PredatoryFern http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-1300 PredatoryFern Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:41:25 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-1300 I know this is a Linux blog and all, but does someone know of a solution like this for, *gasp* Windows? I know this is a Linux blog and all, but does someone know of a solution like this for, *gasp* Windows?

]]> By: Trevor Poapst http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-1298 Trevor Poapst Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:02:48 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-1298 These two resources may be of interest to organisations interested in maximising their fixed desktop budget with the Desktop Multiplier: Linux desktop TCO calculator www.omni-ts.com/linux-desktop/tco-calculator.html Customer success stories www.omni-ts.com/success.html#linux-computer-lab These two resources may be of interest to organisations interested in maximising their fixed desktop budget with the Desktop Multiplier:

Linux desktop TCO calculator
http://www.omni-ts.com/linux-desktop/tco-calculator.html

Customer success stories
http://www.omni-ts.com/success.html#linux-computer-lab

]]> By: Tim http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-1296 Tim Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:02:56 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-1296 There is a free-2-user version http://userful.com/products/free-2-user for personal use. There is a free-2-user version http://userful.com/products/free-2-user
for personal use.

]]> By: Wayne http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-1280 Wayne Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:53:48 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-1280 Janek - the 2 seat license is free for the time being (which I figure most people will use) and it adds a marginal cost - if it's that much of an issue, you can setup as many workstations as you like manually. Janek – the 2 seat license is free for the time being (which I figure most people will use) and it adds a marginal cost – if it’s that much of an issue, you can setup as many workstations as you like manually.

]]> By: 58places » Blog Archive » Turn One Linux Computer Into 10 Workstations Easily With Desktop … http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-1272 58places » Blog Archive » Turn One Linux Computer Into 10 Workstations Easily With Desktop … Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:35:18 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-1272 [...] can read the full story here Author Jovani Jimenez Comments [...] [...] can read the full story here Author Jovani Jimenez Comments [...]

]]> By: janek http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/comment-page-1/#comment-1270 janek Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:33:41 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/05/turn-one-linux-computer-into-10-workstations-easily-with-desktop-multiplier/#comment-1270 Look at http://userful.com/products/vs-441/?p=dm : "Software License Cost $99/Station" - add it to you price per seat, please! Look at http://userful.com/products/vs-441/?p=dm : “Software License Cost $99/Station” – add it to you price per seat, please!

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