Comments on: Dear Comcast, Here’s The Million Dollar Question: Is You Is, Or Is You Ain’t Blocking My Torrents? http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/ a swift kick in the *nix Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:27:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: haha http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-4722 haha Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:25:15 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-4722 Seen it first hand myself. And tested. Browsing around. workin fine. all speedy. Startup torrent client on a finished torrent, with a limit of ONE unencrypted connection total. attempting to upload at a max set speed of ONE kb/sec. Browsing no longer so speedy. Actually i can hardly get a page to load without hitting refresh a dozen times. Seen it first hand myself. And tested.

Browsing around. workin fine. all speedy.

Startup torrent client on a finished torrent, with a limit of ONE unencrypted connection total. attempting to upload at a max set speed of ONE kb/sec.

Browsing no longer so speedy. Actually i can hardly get a page to load without hitting refresh a dozen times.

]]> By: It’s Not Torrent Blocking, It’s A Delay! ~ IT Professionals http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-4634 It’s Not Torrent Blocking, It’s A Delay! ~ IT Professionals Thu, 22 May 2008 03:07:04 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-4634 [...] October 31st, 2007 by Matt Hartley Possibly one of the most enlightening pieces on suspicions of Comcast filtering peer to peer traffic that I have seen in a very long time. Think [...] [...] October 31st, 2007 by Matt Hartley Possibly one of the most enlightening pieces on suspicions of Comcast filtering peer to peer traffic that I have seen in a very long time. Think [...]

]]> By: Wayne http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-3900 Wayne Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:43:37 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-3900 waveform609: 56,000 people have viewed this article. I'm pretty sure this article wasn't a waste of my time - I actually had fun with it. rosc: Binaries from Usenet is actually a good way around this if you have no other option. Unlimited accounts start at around $20 USD. Jim: Well said. waveform609: 56,000 people have viewed this article. I’m pretty sure this article wasn’t a waste of my time – I actually had fun with it.

rosc: Binaries from Usenet is actually a good way around this if you have no other option. Unlimited accounts start at around $20 USD.

Jim: Well said.

]]> By: Jim http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-3896 Jim Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:01:00 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-3896 Just one thing. Comcast makes a big stink about torrents using up bandwidth. What no one seems to consider is, why not just make a network that CAN handle all the bandwidth??? They can't or won't spend the capital on building a DECENT network, and then when customers who PAY to receive the benefit of internet access, they blame them for their bandwidth woes. I say bullshit, build a better network. Just one thing. Comcast makes a big stink about torrents using up bandwidth. What no one seems to consider is, why not just make a network that CAN handle all the bandwidth??? They can’t or won’t spend the capital on building a DECENT network, and then when customers who PAY to receive the benefit of internet access, they blame them for their bandwidth woes. I say bullshit, build a better network.

]]> By: rosc http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-1622 rosc Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:29:36 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-1622 How retarded, downloading binaries from usenet.. Fucking idiot How retarded, downloading binaries from usenet.. Fucking idiot

]]> By: waveform609 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-1539 waveform609 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:19:47 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-1539 This posting and the associated article are complete wastes of time – I can’t even believe I am wasting the time to write this. Cable modems use shared bandwidth technology and DSL and fiber modems use non-shared bandwidth technology, except for my new FiOS service in NJ which uses cable modem technology (FTTC) – which is completely different from my old FiOS service in TX (FTTH). Bottom line – Cable modem service sucks if you actually want to use the service. The listed bandwidths you are paying for (notice I said “paying for” - I did not say “getting”) are meaningless except for webpage downloads (i.e. plain vanilla HTTP – I don’t think they even like FTP…) So to say Comcast’s speeds of whatever Mbps (say 15Mbps for example) are meaningless if you can‘t actually use it. In these cases, a dedicated DSL line at 1.5Mbps would be faster since it actually works for you! The problem is in the technology of the Comcast network. Let me explain. The problem with shared bandwidth technologies, e.g. cable modems, is that each and every use of the bandwidth affects ALL users on that portion of the network. So your P2P downloading is lowering the total available bandwidth for all of your neighbors - who are trying to pull HTTP webpages, SMTP or POP3 email and FTP downloading. Hey, I didn’t make the rules and I don’t agree with them. But Comcast is just trying to keep their network moving for the majority of unaffected customers, i.e., the customers who are not heavy users but just pull webpages, check their email and download files now and then – not heavy data users or those users who are actually trying to use the Mbps that their payments are supposed to be for. And, unfortunately, those users who are outside of this bracket are in the minority. If you are one of these users, and are affected by this “traffic shaping” then the answer is simple – change ISP’s or move. I am a former Comcast employee. I am also a former Comcast user. And I was also in the minority too. I even got one of the famous letters warning me to not use my service so much or I might be shut off permanently. So I went to Verizon for a 1.5Mbps ADSL line. It wasn’t as fast as my supposed 3Mbps cable modem (at the time), but hey – at least I could use it! So my advise is, if you are one of these users, change ISP’s and go for whatever ADSL line you can get. If you can only get dial up – MOVE, GET SATTELITE INTERNET OR SHUT UP. Now for the good part - if you are actually using P2P then you are a lamer. Only idiots use P2P. Whatever your reason, I don’t care – you are a complete idiot. You are a moron. You are obtaining data, either © or not © I don’t care - you are obtaining data from and giving data to complete strangers. Get a premium news service, a SSL enabled newsreader and download your shit from the Usenet. Although nothing is totally secure (you don’t have a TACLANE now do you) at least it is from one source, and not from many – of which only one has to be the RIAA, MPAA, FBI, etc. Oh yeah, Comcast SUX. This posting and the associated article are complete wastes of time – I can’t even believe I am wasting the time to write this. Cable modems use shared bandwidth technology and DSL and fiber modems use non-shared bandwidth technology, except for my new FiOS service in NJ which uses cable modem technology (FTTC) – which is completely different from my old FiOS service in TX (FTTH).

Bottom line – Cable modem service sucks if you actually want to use the service. The listed bandwidths you are paying for (notice I said “paying for” – I did not say “getting”) are meaningless except for webpage downloads (i.e. plain vanilla HTTP – I don’t think they even like FTP…) So to say Comcast’s speeds of whatever Mbps (say 15Mbps for example) are meaningless if you can‘t actually use it. In these cases, a dedicated DSL line at 1.5Mbps would be faster since it actually works for you! The problem is in the technology of the Comcast network. Let me explain.

The problem with shared bandwidth technologies, e.g. cable modems, is that each and every use of the bandwidth affects ALL users on that portion of the network. So your P2P downloading is lowering the total available bandwidth for all of your neighbors – who are trying to pull HTTP webpages, SMTP or POP3 email and FTP downloading.

Hey, I didn’t make the rules and I don’t agree with them. But Comcast is just trying to keep their network moving for the majority of unaffected customers, i.e., the customers who are not heavy users but just pull webpages, check their email and download files now and then – not heavy data users or those users who are actually trying to use the Mbps that their payments are supposed to be for. And, unfortunately, those users who are outside of this bracket are in the minority. If you are one of these users, and are affected by this “traffic shaping” then the answer is simple – change ISP’s or move.

I am a former Comcast employee. I am also a former Comcast user. And I was also in the minority too. I even got one of the famous letters warning me to not use my service so much or I might be shut off permanently. So I went to Verizon for a 1.5Mbps ADSL line. It wasn’t as fast as my supposed 3Mbps cable modem (at the time), but hey – at least I could use it! So my advise is, if you are one of these users, change ISP’s and go for whatever ADSL line you can get. If you can only get dial up – MOVE, GET SATTELITE INTERNET OR SHUT UP.

Now for the good part – if you are actually using P2P then you are a lamer. Only idiots use P2P. Whatever your reason, I don’t care – you are a complete idiot. You are a moron. You are obtaining data, either © or not © I don’t care – you are obtaining data from and giving data to complete strangers. Get a premium news service, a SSL enabled newsreader and download your shit from the Usenet. Although nothing is totally secure (you don’t have a TACLANE now do you) at least it is from one source, and not from many – of which only one has to be the RIAA, MPAA, FBI, etc.

Oh yeah, Comcast SUX.

]]> By: Jerry McBride http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-1379 Jerry McBride Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:09:45 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-1379 I live in New Jersey. It's VERY obvious that comcast is blocking seeding or at the least slowing connections down to a point that they never go through. If there was a serious alternative to comcast... I'd have switched yesterday! The Verizon FIOS isn't available yet and Verizon won't bond muliple dsl to a residence... So... I'm screwed as far as sharing via p2p. I live in New Jersey. It’s VERY obvious that comcast is blocking seeding or at the least slowing connections down to a point that they never go through.

If there was a serious alternative to comcast… I’d have switched yesterday!

The Verizon FIOS isn’t available yet and Verizon won’t bond muliple dsl to a residence…

So… I’m screwed as far as sharing via p2p.

]]> By: crazian http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-1329 crazian Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:21:59 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-1329 You rock man! you rock! Death to tyranny! US is right now becoming commies...or even worse (China block sites that attacks them but didn't block torrent :/) blocking Torrent first, then all articles that attacks it, then everything bad about them, then everything other then www.comcast.com You rock man! you rock! Death to tyranny!
US is right now becoming commies…or even worse (China block sites that attacks them but didn’t block torrent :/)

blocking Torrent first, then all articles that attacks it, then everything bad about them, then everything other then http://www.comcast.com

]]> By: SE51 > /dev/null » Dear Comcast: http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-1302 SE51 > /dev/null » Dear Comcast: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:43:56 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-1302 [...] Is you, or is you ain’t blocking your user’s torrents? [...] [...] Is you, or is you ain’t blocking your user’s torrents? [...]

]]> By: Daniel http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/comment-page-2/#comment-1211 Daniel Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:14:07 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/23/dear-comcast-heres-the-million-dollar-question-is-you-is-or-is-you-aint-blocking-my-torrents/#comment-1211 Ah, again customer support proving they know 0% about computers, along with a few posters. P2P wasn't set up as a way to illegally share files, it was set up as a way to locally share files and network computers, but then people got the idea they could do naughty stuff with it and then your done. Same thing happened with Viruses and worms, both were created with the idea of having an automated updating or file fixing system, but then some people abused the idea. This can also relate to torrents. An easier way for people to share files. Quick and simple. However any type of way of sharing files is going to result in Piracy. Quite simply put, if software wasn't so bloody over-priced, then nobody would download. We aren't all made of money... Ah, again customer support proving they know 0% about computers, along with a few posters. P2P wasn’t set up as a way to illegally share files, it was set up as a way to locally share files and network computers, but then people got the idea they could do naughty stuff with it and then your done.

Same thing happened with Viruses and worms, both were created with the idea of having an automated updating or file fixing system, but then some people abused the idea.

This can also relate to torrents. An easier way for people to share files. Quick and simple. However any type of way of sharing files is going to result in Piracy. Quite simply put, if software wasn’t so bloody over-priced, then nobody would download. We aren’t all made of money…

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