Comments on: How To: Be Bored To Tears While Installing Mandriva 2008 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/ a swift kick in the *nix Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:46:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: linuxiac http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-666 linuxiac Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:33:44 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/#comment-666 Mandriva, as in http://pclinuxos.com is a LiveCD and installs in about 9 minutes. Meanwhile, I am usually surfing while it does the install! Yes, in Linux, with multi-tasking, multi-desktops, it's a cake walk! Mandriva, as in http://pclinuxos.com is a LiveCD and installs in about 9 minutes. Meanwhile, I am usually surfing while it does the install!

Yes, in Linux, with multi-tasking, multi-desktops, it’s a cake walk!

]]> By: Wayne http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-629 Wayne Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:49:06 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/#comment-629 No problem. eBay humor? What's that? *grin* "Preferring an unfinished distro over a release talks a lot I suppose." - This is 100% correct. Thanks for the compliment! -Wayne No problem. eBay humor? What’s that? *grin*

“Preferring an unfinished distro over a release talks a lot I suppose.” – This is 100% correct. Thanks for the compliment!

-Wayne

]]> By: Iván http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-628 Iván Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:50:39 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/#comment-628 Wayne: I should tone down my comment as well, so my apologies to you. Sorry if I offended you. Maybe I can get a sense of humor on ebay, too? :P I agree that, while being a good distro, Mandriva has a few rough edges that you wouldn't expect from a distro which has been in development for so long. I had a similar experience with openSUSE 10.3 recently: full of good ideas, but a few stupid issues (which shouldn't have passed a decent QA test) made me go back to a pre-release version of Ubuntu (that is Gutsy, obviously). Preferring an unfinished distro over a release talks a lot I suppose. About Zen no, I didn't read it. Having tried it myself, I loved it when first installed, but absolutely hated it when I tried to install additional stuff and you know, <i>do something</i> with it. Again, my apologies and keep up the good work :) Wayne: I should tone down my comment as well, so my apologies to you. Sorry if I offended you. Maybe I can get a sense of humor on ebay, too? :P

I agree that, while being a good distro, Mandriva has a few rough edges that you wouldn’t expect from a distro which has been in development for so long. I had a similar experience with openSUSE 10.3 recently: full of good ideas, but a few stupid issues (which shouldn’t have passed a decent QA test) made me go back to a pre-release version of Ubuntu (that is Gutsy, obviously). Preferring an unfinished distro over a release talks a lot I suppose.

About Zen no, I didn’t read it. Having tried it myself, I loved it when first installed, but absolutely hated it when I tried to install additional stuff and you know, do something with it.

Again, my apologies and keep up the good work :)

]]> By: Wayne http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-627 Wayne Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:15:33 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/#comment-627 Iván, my appologies if I have offended you. I agree, the criticism is not completely unwarranted. For me, writing subjective reviews is an exercise in creative writing. Fun, yet relatively useless in the real world. This article is pretty lame if you don't appreciate the humor or where my point of view is coming from. As for your assertion that I've been using Linux since Fiesty... My first experience with Linux was nearly 10 years ago, with the 5.0 release of Redhat. It was downloaded over an asynchronous satellite internet service, with a dialup uplink, which was pretty ghetto, but faster than anything else available in the city I lived in at the time. You are partially correct, because recently I've finally made the switch to using Linux full-time. I don't even have a windows partition anymore. I've installed Linux on the other workstation in the house, and for the most part, my girlfriend enjoys it, and the other two roomates haven't even noticed a change. When I first saw Mandrake (As I recall, it was a derivative of RH6.0) I fell in love. It seemed so much easier to get running when compared to Redhat. Unfortunately, my experiment with Mandrake left a pretty sour taste in my mouth with two very apparent, very "unprofessional" errors - a PDF included that's a year old, and a lack of any sort of warning that the disk is about to be partitioned. If someone accidentally pressed the spacebar on their keyboard while running the installer, they could end up with a complete disaster and a possible lengthy (not to mention frustrating) recovery ahead of them. Mandriva is certainly <strong>not</strong> all bad. Perhaps you didn't see my review of Zenwalk? It's far, far more subjective and offensive. I've toned it down a bit since then. :) Cheers, Wayne Iván, my appologies if I have offended you.

I agree, the criticism is not completely unwarranted. For me, writing subjective reviews is an exercise in creative writing. Fun, yet relatively useless in the real world.

This article is pretty lame if you don’t appreciate the humor or where my point of view is coming from.

As for your assertion that I’ve been using Linux since Fiesty… My first experience with Linux was nearly 10 years ago, with the 5.0 release of Redhat. It was downloaded over an asynchronous satellite internet service, with a dialup uplink, which was pretty ghetto, but faster than anything else available in the city I lived in at the time.

You are partially correct, because recently I’ve finally made the switch to using Linux full-time. I don’t even have a windows partition anymore. I’ve installed Linux on the other workstation in the house, and for the most part, my girlfriend enjoys it, and the other two roomates haven’t even noticed a change.

When I first saw Mandrake (As I recall, it was a derivative of RH6.0) I fell in love. It seemed so much easier to get running when compared to Redhat.

Unfortunately, my experiment with Mandrake left a pretty sour taste in my mouth with two very apparent, very “unprofessional” errors – a PDF included that’s a year old, and a lack of any sort of warning that the disk is about to be partitioned.

If someone accidentally pressed the spacebar on their keyboard while running the installer, they could end up with a complete disaster and a possible lengthy (not to mention frustrating) recovery ahead of them.

Mandriva is certainly not all bad.

Perhaps you didn’t see my review of Zenwalk? It’s far, far more subjective and offensive. I’ve toned it down a bit since then. :)

Cheers,
Wayne

]]> By: Iván http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-625 Iván Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:02:58 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/#comment-625 OK, I'm also an Ubuntu user, but that was one of the lamest post I've seen ever on this blog. I really like fsckin.com, but putting off Mandriva just because you find it "boring" only shows that you've been using GNU/Linux since... let me guess: from Ubuntu Feisty? Come on man, show a little respect for other's work, Mandrake was one of the first distros to try to shorten the gap between Linux and the desktop. And that was many, many years before Ubuntu ever existed. Try to turn off the Ubuntu-hype machine and try to be a little more objective :) Cheers! OK, I’m also an Ubuntu user, but that was one of the lamest post I’ve seen ever on this blog. I really like fsckin.com, but putting off Mandriva just because you find it “boring” only shows that you’ve been using GNU/Linux since… let me guess: from Ubuntu Feisty?

Come on man, show a little respect for other’s work, Mandrake was one of the first distros to try to shorten the gap between Linux and the desktop. And that was many, many years before Ubuntu ever existed.

Try to turn off the Ubuntu-hype machine and try to be a little more objective :)

Cheers!

]]> By: Wayne http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-618 Wayne Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:45:56 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/#comment-618 Josua: True enough. Zachary: I did not notice that, but it is ripped off. Josua: True enough.
Zachary: I did not notice that, but it is ripped off.

]]> By: Zachary http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-616 Zachary Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:19:47 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/#comment-616 It does look boring. Wait... human and DNA? Total Ubuntu-Fedora ripoff! It does look boring.

Wait… human and DNA? Total Ubuntu-Fedora ripoff!

]]> By: Joshua Jabin http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-614 Joshua Jabin Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:56:46 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/14/how-to-be-bored-to-tears-while-installing-mandriva-2008/#comment-614 I'd say that a boring installation isn't necessarily a bad thing. I certainly want an installation to be too interesting. That would likely mean that something went very, very wrong. I’d say that a boring installation isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I certainly want an installation to be too interesting. That would likely mean that something went very, very wrong.

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