Yes, Fox is bad. But You w/Fox=Me w/ABC et. al.

Please understand, though, I’m not really left or right, myself. I think the leadership on both sides of the aisle is too extremist. If the regular people in each party were ever to put aside the labels of “Democrat” or “Republican” and figure out they really do agree on much more than what they fight about, the leaders on both sides would be out.

Or, just say “Libertarian” to tick off everyone. Over here, a gun-toting pro-choice person is better off being a Libertarian. I just wish we could get one as President.

Personally, I was bashing everyone above, more tongue in cheek bashing, or “Equal Opportunity Offender”, but I think the reason the Mormons get beat on is that they are so damn successful, both in worldly matters and as a faith. They really do run Utah (from what I’ve seen driving thru it), and most Mormon families I’ve met are, if not wealthy, at least not worried about paying the bills. And the LDS church is growing, so of course they’re “Stealing” converts (read: $$) from other faiths.

All prophets are human, and subject to human desires. They may indeed have been inspired by God, but I’m willing to lay odds that God’s message got mixed in with some personal desire for glory for themselves. Note Jesus !=Prophet.

But Robert A. Heinlein said it best in his books: All Religions are created equal. First they benefit the priests, then the kings, then the priests.

(I can’t remember the exact quote, but it was along those lines.)

Don’t wanna make a fuss around my name, but it is really NUNO It’s a very oldfashioned portuguese being used for over 1000 years.

Hedonism? Only once a day to keep the apple away hahahahaha.

@Jeff
Some sparse notes.

For an outsider like me, all those slight nuances in between twin political parties are merely cosmetic (for a leftist european, at least:))
The problem with Fox News is that their manipulation techniques are just too gross. It takes a load of naivety to believe whatever they spit out, even the weather forecast hahahaha

Regarding religious beliefs, i start to be convinced that God is himself Atheist. He must be so disappointed at his faulty creation that He may find any form of worship and devotion offensive. Misbelief is the way to salvation and only those who have striven to behave ethically will be rescued from eternal damnation
God’s message to mankind (Revelation 23 ): “Stop fooling yourselves, mind your troubles, leave me alone.”
Do you guys really THINK that an almighty creator, omnipresent, omniscient and everlasting would ever require faith? What for when one is alpha and omega?

On the Mormon bashing… It amazes me why other Chirsties are so harsh at them. Was Mr. Smith a liar?… Hmmmm… What about all the prophets from the Jewish tradition? Couldn’t they be a bunch of charlatans as well?

From where i stand, it is all worth the same credibility. None.

I strongly endorse you to read a masterpiece written by a fellow citizen of mine who was awarded the Nobel Literature Prize back in 1998.
The Gospel According to Jesus Christ, by Jose Saramago.
http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-According-Jesus-Christ/dp/0156001411

It depicts the only religion i could ever adhere to. Humanism.

Personally, I think the best explaination for Smith’s translation of the Kinderhook Plates, that would still fit within the Church is that “Smith was filled with pride and attempted to do something not of God” or some such. (Yes, I think he tried…)

The Scrolls, well, they seem to be fighting that one fairly well.

So far as I know they aren’t claiming Joseph Smith was sinless, as was Christ, so admitting fault and moving on would have killed off the possibility of claiming some “Conspiracy”

Kinda like how Clinton shudda said “Hell yes I inhaled!! And I ate the roach when I was done, and drank the friggin’ bong water when we switched to smoking bowls.”

Ok, Now I’ve ticked off most major branches of Christianity, and most Democrats too. :p

1Tim 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

The LOVE of money, not money itself

Fox News a manipulation engine?? Nooooo…

But then, since ABC/NBC/CBS elected Clinton I’ve felt *They* were manipulation engines. CNN’s not called Clinton News Network for nothing.

The fact is, EVERY media outlet is an M.E. (I’m too lazy to type that out again…) the difference lies in what direction they are attempting manipulation in.

The skill lies in knowing where the BS is, and not getting manipulated.

And as far as “What Branch”, Christianity, the basic “from the word of Jesus” kind, has no branches. Branches were created by man, which is why personally, I subscribe to none of them.

Being Christian means having accepted that you are not perfect, that God knows this, and sent Jesus here, etc.

I personally think that God has a sense of humor, he created us, and while I might burn in hell for calling them “Daddy, Boy Wonder and The Spook” or referring to the Sacraments as “The Juice and the Holy Cookies”, I doubt it, because these are things that are defined by men, not God.

Here’s a funny one, lest the Baptists and Catholics feel they are the only people I’ve offended: “Jehovah”, or the original Hebrew symbols that translate into “Jehovah”, mean “I am what I am, Do not try to name me.” Seems that our friends in the Watchtower are disobeying the Lord by cramming a name onto Him.

Alas, I can’t tick off the Mormons present, because the only thing I knew of that I’d call smelly (prohibition of blacks, calling them the “Sons of Cain”) was repealed in 1978.

My point here is that all of these distinctions were made by MEN. I believe that accepting Jesus will get you into Heaven, if only by the skin of your teeth.

I think UCE fits Christianity, as it should have been, well. You make it your own, with the words of Christ as your guide.

Hell, I got 20 gigs free here, I might just have to go get it myself now.

Well, it is completely impossible to be perfectly tailored for every denomination of Christianity.

I built the distro in an effort to meet the needs of the majority of Christians both Protestant and Catholic. I also listen closely to the users of Ubuntu CE. If they have a need and voice it through a suggestion then I try to meet that need whenever possible.

I am basically doing everything I can to meet the needs of those using Ubuntu CE. I have not agenda other than that.

Jereme Hancock
Ubuntu CE Developer