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	<title>Comments on: Giving Away Software For Free Costs More Than You Would Think (Part 3)</title>
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	<description>a swift kick in the *nix</description>
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		<title>By: Casual observer</title>
		<link>http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5622</link>
		<dc:creator>Casual observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved this post and all the vigorous banter. Keep it up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this post and all the vigorous banter. Keep it up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HonestObserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>HonestObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 08:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XP sucks.  My laptop died with SP3.  I&#039;m on Ubuntu now.  It still fucking sucks.  Linux will never become big, because the average user will never be able to wade through dozens of wikis and forum posts because your shoddily-coded crap open-source program doesn&#039;t work.  At least with closed source you have developers who have an incentive to keep on working if the customers bail.   I don&#039;t get how nice the GUI is, and how secure it is, and how anti-monopolistic Linux is.  The average user will not fucking type out commands to install programs.

Get with the times, you overrated open-source devs.  Stop with your elitist nonsense and start fixing your damn bugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XP sucks.  My laptop died with SP3.  I&#8217;m on Ubuntu now.  It still fucking sucks.  Linux will never become big, because the average user will never be able to wade through dozens of wikis and forum posts because your shoddily-coded crap open-source program doesn&#8217;t work.  At least with closed source you have developers who have an incentive to keep on working if the customers bail.   I don&#8217;t get how nice the GUI is, and how secure it is, and how anti-monopolistic Linux is.  The average user will not fucking type out commands to install programs.</p>
<p>Get with the times, you overrated open-source devs.  Stop with your elitist nonsense and start fixing your damn bugs.</p>
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		<title>By: snkiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>snkiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well F**k linux I am a regular desktop user on linux quite happy with my ubuntu I have a p3 600 and and old rage pro card, I have transparent windows, can M$ do that? I agree there are too many half finshed projects out there and *nix could use a little more direction. But that is part of the appeal of linux freedom of choice, and transparency in what your machine is doing. Can the same be said for Windows? not  to mention all the other ignored bugs in windows mentioned above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well F**k linux I am a regular desktop user on linux quite happy with my ubuntu I have a p3 600 and and old rage pro card, I have transparent windows, can M$ do that? I agree there are too many half finshed projects out there and *nix could use a little more direction. But that is part of the appeal of linux freedom of choice, and transparency in what your machine is doing. Can the same be said for Windows? not  to mention all the other ignored bugs in windows mentioned above.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeNick</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeNick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that there are tons of great free software out there, such as Mozilla Firefox, Filezilla, and the Apache web server, I am not much of a Linux fan. Yes, I have tried it before, and I agree that the Linux command like pretty much beats everything else. However, everytime I install Linux, bad things begin to happen. I have had, in the course of three years, two monitors and one sound card destroyed by Linux errors. Not to mention a lot of hardware that could not be installed or that was a real pain to install (entire weeks even...).

So, for the time being, I will stick with Windows, and yes, the plethora of good free software available for it such as Mozilla, Filezilla and Apache. Linux can wait a bit longer, though. Maybe I will install it again when I don&#039;t mind taking nine hours just to print out a document. Or when it greatly improves to the point of being super friendly, which will probably happen, eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that there are tons of great free software out there, such as Mozilla Firefox, Filezilla, and the Apache web server, I am not much of a Linux fan. Yes, I have tried it before, and I agree that the Linux command like pretty much beats everything else. However, everytime I install Linux, bad things begin to happen. I have had, in the course of three years, two monitors and one sound card destroyed by Linux errors. Not to mention a lot of hardware that could not be installed or that was a real pain to install (entire weeks even&#8230;).</p>
<p>So, for the time being, I will stick with Windows, and yes, the plethora of good free software available for it such as Mozilla, Filezilla and Apache. Linux can wait a bit longer, though. Maybe I will install it again when I don&#8217;t mind taking nine hours just to print out a document. Or when it greatly improves to the point of being super friendly, which will probably happen, eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: Unix Mouth &#187; Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unix Mouth &#187; Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Justin Hopkins: Web Designer &#187; Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think</title>
		<link>http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-684</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Hopkins: Web Designer &#187; Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] software repository contains over 121 million lines of code and is worth over 7 billion dollars.read more &#124; digg [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fsckin w/ linux &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Digg “Linux Nation” for Thursday October 11th 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>fsckin w/ linux &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Digg “Linux Nation” for Thursday October 11th 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think I made the top 15 again this week, and surely it was warranted because I spent probably more than [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rev. Spaminator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Spaminator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fuck Linux

If you need help with video drivers, ask.  Every OS can be funky about hardware and drivers.  You just need to approach the problem from a different angle.

You prefer VS, and for C# and .NET that is a good option.  I do most of my coding without an IDE, so I prefer a solid editor with good code highlighting.  If you are looking for a good IDE for Linux, again, just ask.  Name calling won&#039;t get you much help from anyone.

You missed the point about the trolling comment.  This appears to be a Linux oriented Blog, yet you insist on posting comments that trash Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fuck Linux</p>
<p>If you need help with video drivers, ask.  Every OS can be funky about hardware and drivers.  You just need to approach the problem from a different angle.</p>
<p>You prefer VS, and for C# and .NET that is a good option.  I do most of my coding without an IDE, so I prefer a solid editor with good code highlighting.  If you are looking for a good IDE for Linux, again, just ask.  Name calling won&#8217;t get you much help from anyone.</p>
<p>You missed the point about the trolling comment.  This appears to be a Linux oriented Blog, yet you insist on posting comments that trash Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: itomato</title>
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		<dc:creator>itomato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can create statistics for anything.

This is a fundamentally flawed extrapolation.  I would argue a few contrary points; 1). That the total number of lines would be ~20% smaller 2). That all the GNU components do not contribute to the dollar amount, because they have no cost.

Writing a 1-for-1 GNU/Ubuntu/Linux operating system clone from scratch, at a level similar in efficiency to the existing model may require that many paper hours, but the raw dollars would change.  You are targetting a specific goal, rather than accepting the natural result, which would require more intensive effort all the way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can create statistics for anything.</p>
<p>This is a fundamentally flawed extrapolation.  I would argue a few contrary points; 1). That the total number of lines would be ~20% smaller 2). That all the GNU components do not contribute to the dollar amount, because they have no cost.</p>
<p>Writing a 1-for-1 GNU/Ubuntu/Linux operating system clone from scratch, at a level similar in efficiency to the existing model may require that many paper hours, but the raw dollars would change.  You are targetting a specific goal, rather than accepting the natural result, which would require more intensive effort all the way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuck Linux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fuck Linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rev. Spaminator:

I am more than willing to take money from Microsoft if they are willing to give it to me, however that is unlikely to happen as I have no association with them whatsoever apart from being a user of Windows XP and their Visual Studio express tools and in paticular C#.
It is the best IDE I have ever used, it has not crashed once on me, and when I installed the XNA framework for games development it just worked first time without any more configuration on my part. But contrast that with the following experiences I had with KDevelop on Linux - earlier this year I installed  PCLInuxOS 2007 final and among other things I intended to have a go at one of them was coding in C++ &amp; SDL (Simple Direct Media Layer) as it looked like a promising framework for games development. So via synaptic I install KDevelop and the relevant dependecies, but when I go to use make I get an error message telling me it&#039;s not installed even though I know it is. Anyway I fire up synaptic again and tick the relevant boxes to grab the files, but still no luck, I get the same cryptic error message telling me it&#039;s not installed, blah, blah, blah. What the hell is so fundamentaly different about KDEvelop as opposed to C# express edition that it cannot just configure whatever it needs to work properly without all this carry on?    

Read on for another tale of Linux woe, this time it&#039;s  Graphics cards. 

The PCLinuxOS machine I mentioned above has an nVidia  5600 FX graphics card sporting 256 MB RAM and via synaptic I installed  the relevant drivers for it, upon reboot I set the resolution to something around 1600 X 900 to take advantage of my 22&quot; widescreen monitor. But no matter what I do the resolution drops back down to 1024 X 768  at each reboot- what the hell is going on?  I know the card is capable, I try, and I try, but no joy. I&#039;d salvaged a PC from work at this time and just to see how things went I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 final on it. The machine had a GeForce 2 MX with 32 MB ram onboard. I boot into the desktop for the first time and to my utter annoyance I see that the display resoultion is so high the card can barely handle it!!!!! Do you really expect people to adopt Linux when nonsense like this is left unresolved? I&#039;ve not had anything like that happen under XP Pro. I&#039;d never advise anyone to install  Linux - no way, it&#039;s not worth the hassle to get things to work the way they should. What&#039;s the point of free software if it&#039;s such a pain to use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rev. Spaminator:</p>
<p>I am more than willing to take money from Microsoft if they are willing to give it to me, however that is unlikely to happen as I have no association with them whatsoever apart from being a user of Windows XP and their Visual Studio express tools and in paticular C#.<br />
It is the best IDE I have ever used, it has not crashed once on me, and when I installed the XNA framework for games development it just worked first time without any more configuration on my part. But contrast that with the following experiences I had with KDevelop on Linux &#8211; earlier this year I installed  PCLInuxOS 2007 final and among other things I intended to have a go at one of them was coding in C++ &amp; SDL (Simple Direct Media Layer) as it looked like a promising framework for games development. So via synaptic I install KDevelop and the relevant dependecies, but when I go to use make I get an error message telling me it&#8217;s not installed even though I know it is. Anyway I fire up synaptic again and tick the relevant boxes to grab the files, but still no luck, I get the same cryptic error message telling me it&#8217;s not installed, blah, blah, blah. What the hell is so fundamentaly different about KDEvelop as opposed to C# express edition that it cannot just configure whatever it needs to work properly without all this carry on?    </p>
<p>Read on for another tale of Linux woe, this time it&#8217;s  Graphics cards. </p>
<p>The PCLinuxOS machine I mentioned above has an nVidia  5600 FX graphics card sporting 256 MB RAM and via synaptic I installed  the relevant drivers for it, upon reboot I set the resolution to something around 1600 X 900 to take advantage of my 22&#8243; widescreen monitor. But no matter what I do the resolution drops back down to 1024 X 768  at each reboot- what the hell is going on?  I know the card is capable, I try, and I try, but no joy. I&#8217;d salvaged a PC from work at this time and just to see how things went I installed PCLinuxOS 2007 final on it. The machine had a GeForce 2 MX with 32 MB ram onboard. I boot into the desktop for the first time and to my utter annoyance I see that the display resoultion is so high the card can barely handle it!!!!! Do you really expect people to adopt Linux when nonsense like this is left unresolved? I&#8217;ve not had anything like that happen under XP Pro. I&#8217;d never advise anyone to install  Linux &#8211; no way, it&#8217;s not worth the hassle to get things to work the way they should. What&#8217;s the point of free software if it&#8217;s such a pain to use?</p>
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