Comments on: Giving Away Software For Free Costs More Than You Would Think (Part 3) http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/ a swift kick in the *nix Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:00:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Quora http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5937 Quora Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:32:24 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-5937 <strong>What did Ubuntu actually cost, strictly financially, since it's inception in 2004?...</strong> .On this site (http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/) they figure the labour that went in to it amounts to a whopping 7 billion dollar. According to Founder Mark Shuttleworths wikipedia p... What did Ubuntu actually cost, strictly financially, since it’s inception in 2004?…

.On this site (http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/) they figure the labour that went in to it amounts to a whopping 7 billion dollar. According to Founder Mark Shuttleworths wikipedia p…

]]> By: Casual observer http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5622 Casual observer Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:53:00 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-5622 I loved this post and all the vigorous banter. Keep it up... I loved this post and all the vigorous banter. Keep it up…

]]> By: HonestObserver http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-4683 HonestObserver Fri, 30 May 2008 08:01:34 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-4683 XP sucks. My laptop died with SP3. I'm on Ubuntu now. It still fucking sucks. Linux will never become big, because the average user will never be able to wade through dozens of wikis and forum posts because your shoddily-coded crap open-source program doesn't work. At least with closed source you have developers who have an incentive to keep on working if the customers bail. I don't get how nice the GUI is, and how secure it is, and how anti-monopolistic Linux is. The average user will not fucking type out commands to install programs. Get with the times, you overrated open-source devs. Stop with your elitist nonsense and start fixing your damn bugs. XP sucks. My laptop died with SP3. I’m on Ubuntu now. It still fucking sucks. Linux will never become big, because the average user will never be able to wade through dozens of wikis and forum posts because your shoddily-coded crap open-source program doesn’t work. At least with closed source you have developers who have an incentive to keep on working if the customers bail. I don’t get how nice the GUI is, and how secure it is, and how anti-monopolistic Linux is. The average user will not fucking type out commands to install programs.

Get with the times, you overrated open-source devs. Stop with your elitist nonsense and start fixing your damn bugs.

]]> By: snkiz http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3944 snkiz Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:03:39 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-3944 Well F**k linux I am a regular desktop user on linux quite happy with my ubuntu I have a p3 600 and and old rage pro card, I have transparent windows, can M$ do that? I agree there are too many half finshed projects out there and *nix could use a little more direction. But that is part of the appeal of linux freedom of choice, and transparency in what your machine is doing. Can the same be said for Windows? not to mention all the other ignored bugs in windows mentioned above. Well F**k linux I am a regular desktop user on linux quite happy with my ubuntu I have a p3 600 and and old rage pro card, I have transparent windows, can M$ do that? I agree there are too many half finshed projects out there and *nix could use a little more direction. But that is part of the appeal of linux freedom of choice, and transparency in what your machine is doing. Can the same be said for Windows? not to mention all the other ignored bugs in windows mentioned above.

]]> By: SomeNick http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-3866 SomeNick Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:08:23 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-3866 While I agree that there are tons of great free software out there, such as Mozilla Firefox, Filezilla, and the Apache web server, I am not much of a Linux fan. Yes, I have tried it before, and I agree that the Linux command like pretty much beats everything else. However, everytime I install Linux, bad things begin to happen. I have had, in the course of three years, two monitors and one sound card destroyed by Linux errors. Not to mention a lot of hardware that could not be installed or that was a real pain to install (entire weeks even...). So, for the time being, I will stick with Windows, and yes, the plethora of good free software available for it such as Mozilla, Filezilla and Apache. Linux can wait a bit longer, though. Maybe I will install it again when I don't mind taking nine hours just to print out a document. Or when it greatly improves to the point of being super friendly, which will probably happen, eventually. While I agree that there are tons of great free software out there, such as Mozilla Firefox, Filezilla, and the Apache web server, I am not much of a Linux fan. Yes, I have tried it before, and I agree that the Linux command like pretty much beats everything else. However, everytime I install Linux, bad things begin to happen. I have had, in the course of three years, two monitors and one sound card destroyed by Linux errors. Not to mention a lot of hardware that could not be installed or that was a real pain to install (entire weeks even…).

So, for the time being, I will stick with Windows, and yes, the plethora of good free software available for it such as Mozilla, Filezilla and Apache. Linux can wait a bit longer, though. Maybe I will install it again when I don’t mind taking nine hours just to print out a document. Or when it greatly improves to the point of being super friendly, which will probably happen, eventually.

]]> By: Unix Mouth » Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1275 Unix Mouth » Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:30:52 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-1275 [...] read more | digg story [...] [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: Justin Hopkins: Web Designer » Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-684 Justin Hopkins: Web Designer » Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:11:09 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-684 [...] software repository contains over 121 million lines of code and is worth over 7 billion dollars.read more | digg [...] [...] software repository contains over 121 million lines of code and is worth over 7 billion dollars.read more | digg [...]

]]> By: fsckin w/ linux » Blog Archive » Digg “Linux Nation” for Thursday October 11th 2007 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-552 fsckin w/ linux » Blog Archive » Digg “Linux Nation” for Thursday October 11th 2007 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:01:18 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-552 [...] Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think I made the top 15 again this week, and surely it was warranted because I spent probably more than [...] [...] Giving Away Ubuntu Costs More Than You Think I made the top 15 again this week, and surely it was warranted because I spent probably more than [...]

]]> By: Rev. Spaminator http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-543 Rev. Spaminator Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:50:10 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-543 @Fuck Linux If you need help with video drivers, ask. Every OS can be funky about hardware and drivers. You just need to approach the problem from a different angle. You prefer VS, and for C# and .NET that is a good option. I do most of my coding without an IDE, so I prefer a solid editor with good code highlighting. If you are looking for a good IDE for Linux, again, just ask. Name calling won't get you much help from anyone. You missed the point about the trolling comment. This appears to be a Linux oriented Blog, yet you insist on posting comments that trash Linux. @Fuck Linux

If you need help with video drivers, ask. Every OS can be funky about hardware and drivers. You just need to approach the problem from a different angle.

You prefer VS, and for C# and .NET that is a good option. I do most of my coding without an IDE, so I prefer a solid editor with good code highlighting. If you are looking for a good IDE for Linux, again, just ask. Name calling won’t get you much help from anyone.

You missed the point about the trolling comment. This appears to be a Linux oriented Blog, yet you insist on posting comments that trash Linux.

]]> By: itomato http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-535 itomato Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:42:20 +0000 http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/05/giving-away-software-for-free-costs-more-than-you-would-think-part-3/#comment-535 You can create statistics for anything. This is a fundamentally flawed extrapolation. I would argue a few contrary points; 1). That the total number of lines would be ~20% smaller 2). That all the GNU components do not contribute to the dollar amount, because they have no cost. Writing a 1-for-1 GNU/Ubuntu/Linux operating system clone from scratch, at a level similar in efficiency to the existing model may require that many paper hours, but the raw dollars would change. You are targetting a specific goal, rather than accepting the natural result, which would require more intensive effort all the way around. You can create statistics for anything.

This is a fundamentally flawed extrapolation. I would argue a few contrary points; 1). That the total number of lines would be ~20% smaller 2). That all the GNU components do not contribute to the dollar amount, because they have no cost.

Writing a 1-for-1 GNU/Ubuntu/Linux operating system clone from scratch, at a level similar in efficiency to the existing model may require that many paper hours, but the raw dollars would change. You are targetting a specific goal, rather than accepting the natural result, which would require more intensive effort all the way around.

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